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- From: ghporter@NetXpress.com (Glenn H. Porter)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: help:what is missing in visual c++ 1.52 compared with 4.0?
- Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 02:52:39 GMT
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- yuehong@brahms.udel.edu (Yue-hong Zheng) wrote:
-
- >I am trying to learn GUI programming in c/c++ and trying to find a good
- >and inexpensive compiler.
- >There is a big difference in price between vc++ 1.52 and 4.0.
- >So, I am wondering what is good about 4.0 and which part is missing in
- >1.52?
-
- >And, what is the difference between Borland c++ 4.5 and 5.0?
-
- The difference in pricing between vc++ 1.52 (which I have) and 4.0
- (which I do not and do not need) is that there's a whole extra CD in
- 4.0 that contains an extensive, thorough and voluminous 32 bit c++
- development system. 1.52 has one CD that includes their 16 bit
- development system, extensive documentation, and a bunch of games
- (that my son could use without books but I needed lots of help just to
- start).
-
- I don't have 4.0 because, while I understand the use of c/c++ (I doubt
- anyone can really 'know' these languages (P. J. Plauger, et al
- excepted), I _don't_ know how to program for Windows, let alone
- Windows NT or Windows 95.
-
- I don't know about the differences between Borland c++ 4.5 and 5.0
- because the latest version I have is 2.0 (a yeomanlike product for a
- college student and apprentice programmer).
-
- So if you are trying to learn how c/c++ works, go with the student
- priced (if you are eligible) vc++ 1.52 (which is included with 4.0, by
- the way), or whatever Borland is selling at student prices today.
- Play with it, mess your system up fifteen or twenty times with
- mistakes (as I did), and learn the ropes. Then look into expanding
- your horizons with a bigger development system.
-
- And while you're at it, get at least one, preferably two or three
- third party texts on c/c++, and read the periodicals. That costs
- money, of course, but you can often get lucky around the end of a
- college semester when the bookstore won't pay much for the students'
- used texts--make an offer right at the bookstore.
-
- To close, it is not necessarily the compiler that teaches you the art
- and science of programming in c or c++, it is _working with_ the
- compiler, writing code, 'getting thrown', and 'getting back in the
- saddle'. Your experience, guided by as many different sources as you
- can lay hands on, will teach more than you'd ever imagine.
-
- Good Luck,
- Glenn
-
-